What is the value of having Jesus manifest to you, and what do you have to do to make him certainly manifest?
Most Christians are very happy to go through life and never have Jesus manifest. This is like getting married by mail order or over the phone and never seeing who you are theoretically married to. Maybe have test-tube children you never see. This morning my co-worker told about a girl in the Pentecostal church her son goes to who gave a testimony (about how Jesus was "blessing" her, no doubt) and fell down and died practically instantly. Not only were "Born Again" "Holy Ghost baptized" CHRISTIANS present, but Holy Ghost baptized MEDICAL DOCTORS- one of whom was a published author of a Christian book. (I bought the book because I wanted to know how come he had an accident and it took "Jesus" two years to heal him- and he still walks with a limp. Have never got round to reading it. He is an ordained pastor as several of these abominations are.) The girl could have been suffering from anything from sickle-cell disease to malaria fever, but she would have been unable to say anything but "It is well!" (2nd Kings 4:26), and "I am strong!" (Joel 3:10), which are meaningless unless you have the "Rock Foundation" of having PHYSICALLY DONE all the Righteous Works Commanded by Jesus (Matt. 7:21-29; John 15:6-8). Or unless you know the hypocritical trick pulled by the corrupt Senior Brethren, of availing yourself of the finest medical attention affordable, and "Giving The Glory to God" saying that it was JESUS not medical science that was healing you. I had preached to warn Christians locally of their vulnerability, because the Fool Gospel Clergymen demagogically tell people what they want to hear, and tell them to ignore cases where their doctrine does not work. The commonsense thing to do in a church where the prayers hundreds, even thousands of Holy Ghost baptized members could not save one little girl's life is to LEAVE. ISAIAH 44:20. 20. He feedeth on ashes: a deceived heart hath turned him aside, that he cannot deliver his soul, nor say, "Is there not a lie in my right hand?" I HAD A BULLETIN board made, which I used to post messages for anyone to see, giving my spiritual findings explaining how divine healing does and does not work. What The New Birth is and isn't. Holy Ghost baptism, and how to control it. My messages were vandalized when I used the public student boards in the halls on campus, therefore I made my own. My board was vandalized, and my messages stolen. Later on there was a continous crime wave that could have been stopped by the application of my teachings, with several deaths. The hold of these wicked clergymen was so strong, that even facing possible death, no one wants to even look at my recommendations. I do not really care. I do not now, and will never pray for God to give me followers or comrades. People either want this Knowledge, or they want to die without knowing it. It is their choice. These things happen because Christians do not repect Jesus' Least Commandments (Matt. 5:16-20).
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- If manifested in you, I favor having him exercised
- The below verse speaks a lot about who Jesus really is. In John 8:58 "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" There are a lot more chapters and verses mentioned in the below website along with music, speeches and praise and worship. http://jesustrinity.blogspot.com Jesus is God. He is alive forever. The questions usually asked are:- 1) Did Jesus really exist? 2) Is Jesus God? 3) If Jesus is God, then why did He keep praying to the Father in Heaven? How can the Father and Jesus be one God.? Why did Jesus have to suffer on the Cross? 4) What is the Holy Spirit? It would not be possible to give a short answer to these questions . I suggest you visit the below website. After visiting the below website, you would get a lot of answers. http://jesustrinity.blogspot.com
- [I am also ASKER.] It is astonishing that all the Big Mouths who claim to be Christians, have NOTHING to contribute by this time, except "SUNSANDNRAIN," whose answer had absolutely NOTHING at all to do with the question! I heard that American Education is DUMBED-DOWN. What do your answers prove? To "manifest" means (or so I believe) "TO HAVE AN EFFECT." Jesus is SUPPOSED TO have EFFECTS. If not, then he is USELESS. The kind of Faith that 99% of Christians have, you can ask whether or not it is possible that JESUS CAN HAVE AN EFFECT? and they would not be able to answer you. AS YOU CAN SEE...! SCIENTOLOGY AXIOMS 10-12. L. Ron Hubbard 10. The Highest Purpose in this Universe is the Creation of an Effect. 11. THE CONSIDERATIONS RESULTING IN CONDITIONS OF EXISTENCE ARE FOUR-FOLD. (a) AS-IS-NESS is the condition of immediate creation without persistence, and is the condition of existence which exists at the moment of creation and the moment of destruction, and is different from other considerations in that it does not contain survival. (b) ALTER-IS-NESS is the consideration which introduces change and therefore time and persistence, into an AS-IS-NESS to obtain persistency. (c) IS-NESS is an apparency of existence brought about by the continuous alteration of an AS-IS-NESS. This is called, when agreed upon, Reality. (d) NOT-IS-NESS is the effort to handle IS-NESS by reducing its condition through the use of force. It is an apparency and cannot entirely vanquish an IS-NESS. 12. The Primary Condition of any Universe is that two Spaces, Energies, or Objects must not occupy the same Space. When this condition is violated (Perfect Duplicate) the Apparency of any Universe or any part thereof is nulled. IF JESUS MANIFESTS, there are FOUR levels of his manifestation. That is, Brute Force, Harmonization, Transformation, or Creation/Annihilation. THE SIX LEVELS OF EXISTENCE. 1. Beliefs; 2. Thoughts; 3. Words; 4. Physical Actions; 5. Postulates; 6. Total Understanding. IT IS STUPID not to manifest Jesus on any Level of Existence where we might have our Problems. Many Christians wait for problems to arise PERSONALLY before seeking ways to apply Jesus to the Problem. JESUS = SOLUTION. However, all many Christians know to do when problems arise is to jump up and down, and try to flatter Jesus, telling him what a great guy he is. He already knows all that rubbish. Sensible Christians would investigate WHY such an approach generally fails to yield good effects- that is, "results."
- (I am also ASKER.) If Jesus MANIFESTED, he would do the same things he always did in his Ministry! Is that so difficult to figure out? LUKE 7:20-23. 20. When the men were come unto him, they said, "John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, 'Art thou he that should come? or look we for Another?' " 21. And in that same hour he cured many of their infirmities and plagues, and of evil spirits; and unto many that were blind he gave sight. 22. Then Jesus answering said unto them, "Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor The Gospel is preached. 23. "And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me." EVEN JOHN THE BAPTIST was infected with the Spirit of Ingratitude that corrupted the rest of their people. If Jesus did not overthrow the Romans and return autonomy to the people of Israel, they thought, he must not be the Messiah. NONE of the MIRACLES Jesus performed MEANT anything. JOHN THE BAPTIST never fasted and prayed for the Power to heal the sick, raise the dead, and cast out Devils. He DIDN'T CARE about the plight of the poor. WHY do you think Jesus let him rot in prison? John's own selfish preconceived notions kept him a prisoner. I face opposition from Born Again Pentecostal Christians who would rather suffer the consequences of NOT having Jesus manifested to them, so they died of sickness and disease, bodily defects, poverty, crime, and accidents. THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED in having those powers. All they want is to compete with Unbelievers, and have THEM tell them that they are APPROVED BY THEM. Thet don't care about The Poor. they think that the poor are SUB-HUMAN THROWAWAYS. This ALONE is enough REASON why Jesus cannot MANIFEST TO them in their lifetimes. JOHN 14:21-27. 21. "He that hath my Commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him." 22. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, "Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the World?" 23. Jesus answered and said unto him, "If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24. "He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. 25. "These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26. "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, Whom the Father will send in my Name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. 27. "Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the World giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid." THE ONLY WAY to have JESUS manifest himself to you is to KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. Each one of Jesus' Commandments is a Gateway through which he can be enabled to have Physical Effect. Purposes that have no effect are USELESS, and a waste of Time.
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