To me there is no magic or miracles or mystical things. as they presume some sort of unexplainable mystical actions are what caused them. I(f you noticed when magical or miracles have scientific logical reasons for them happening they lose there mystical illusions. To me everything has to have scientific logica facts of how they happen. It doesn't matter if we don't understand them right now, they still are there. Folks you will have a hard time showing anyone that things happen without reason. Iam not talking purpose iam talking about scientific facts. Why many folks assume things we don't understand have to be spiritual or performed miracles by a divine higher power, to me just doesn't make any sense. i am agnostic and i am not saying god does or doesn't exist But if iam correct by assuming that there is always going to be logical scientific facts of how things happen it will pretty much rule out magic or miracles as they both use magic supposedly but miracles are supposedly performed by a divine power. Which to me is juat a game of symantics